Did this good hearted Catholic man imacatholic2 give a good answer to my question about abuse in the church? On Yahoo Answers May 21, 2009 user imacatholic2 [I'm a Catholic to] said [sorry about the wall of words but it is serious info so take your time please before answering!] <[answer to this link] "I am ashamed that these so-called "Catholic Christians" committed these horrible crimes of [sexual] abuse which are contrary to the morals and principles of Christianity and the Catholic Church." And his [I'm a Catholic to] last statement: "+ The Catholic Church is not a corrupt group of believers because a few of its members act in ways that are contrary to the principles of the Catholic Church" For any faith called Christian or otherwise are horrible crimes of [sexual] abuse which are contrary to the morals and principles of Christianity. And this is true in any faith not a corrupt group of believers just because a few members act in ways that are contrary to the principles of their form of faith. So try not to show bigotry toward one faith above another in that area if over all their history record is a good one and than judge only by the accurate facts not bigotry inaccurate feelings. Like what are the right accurate history between the teachings and actions of the Catholic church [and others] and Jehovah's Witnesses? And who of them once they see their wrong ways sincerely repent from it in truth? Or that is stop doing it? Example: History of first Christians, “A careful review of all the information available goes to show that, until the time of Marcus Aurelius [121-180 C.E.], no Christian became a soldier; and no soldier, after becoming a Christian, remained in military service.” (The Rise of Christianity, by E. W. Barnes, 1947, p. 333) “It will be seen presently that the evidence for the existence of a single Christian soldier between 60 and about 165 A.D. is exceedingly slight; . . . up to the reign of Marcus Aurelius at least, no Christian would become a soldier after his baptism.” (The Early Church and the World, by C. J. Cadoux, 1955, pp. 275, 276) “In the second century, Christianity . . . had affirmed the incompatibility of military service with Christianity.” (A Short History of Rome, by G. Ferrero and C. Barbagallo, 1919, p. 382) “The behavior of the Christians was very different from that of the Romans. . . . Since Christ had preached peace, they refused to become soldiers.” (Our World Through the Ages, by N. Platt and M. J. Drummond, 1961, p. 125) “The first Christians thought it was wrong to fight, and would not serve in the army even when the Empire needed soldiers.” (The New World’s Foundations in the Old, by R. and W. M. West, 1929, p. 131) “The Christians . . . shrank from public office and military service.” (“Persecution of the Christians in Gaul, A.D. 177,” by F. P. G. Guizot in The Great Events by Famous Historians, edited by R. Johnson, 1905, Vol. III, p. 246) “While they [the Christians] inculcated the maxims of passive obedience, they refused to take any active part in the civil administration or the military defence of the empire. . . . It was impossible that the Christians, without renouncing a more sacred duty, could assume the character of soldiers, of magistrates, or of princes.”—The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, by Edward Gibbon, Vol. I, p. 416." Seeing that let us get back to what [I'm a Catholic to] said yet about American Christians below: I am also ashamed that so-called "Christian Americans" [think about the history just above of staying out of government and war of first Christians] + Kept slaves until the end of the Civil War [Christ like?] + Imprisoned Japanese Americans in "relocation" camps during WWII [Christ like? + Keep getting into political scandals and winding up in prison. The worst case being Watergate which included the President of the United States [Christ like?] + Permitted the torture of prisoners [Christ like?] + Allow the killing of over a million unborn children every year [Christ like?] Is [I'm a Catholic to] accurate here below if we note the history of the first Christians not mixing in human government business at all? Am I not being BOLD in a loving way to help you see a serious problem here? [I'm a Catholic to] said, "I am glad that these scandals reflect on the individuals involved and not on the organizations to which these individuals belong: + The United States is not a corrupt group of citizens because a few of its members up to and including the President act in ways contrary to the principles of the U.S. + The Catholic Church is not a corrupt group of believers because a few of its members act in ways that are contrary to the principles of the Catholic Church." Easter Religion & Spirituality [I'm a Catholic to] sounds like a real nice guy like so many others with a religious faith see About me: "I am a lifelong lay Catholic with a spouse, children, and a career. When I was old enough to think for myself, I Why do not all Christian faiths have that same faithful to divene law history? A serious question needing a true right answer! And who of them once they see their wrong ways sincerely repent from it in truth? Or that is stop doing the wrong things? See who opened the door for you to make your choice of religion even if it was not their religion you wanted to be part of at link here: When I was old enough to think for myself, I looked around at all of my spiritual options and then realized that Catholicism: + Answered all my questions + Satisfied both my faith and my reason + Inspired both great learning and great spirituality I view Y!A as one of my ministries. I am here to answer questions about God, Christianity, and Catholicism. I am not here to argue, rant, call people names, or spread hate. I hope I meet these goals at least most of the time. With love in Christ." But when we see the true history of the first followers of Christ why do we not see true peace and security in all nations called Christian and no Christian going to war or mixing in human government business? A serious dilemma true? Now which Christian faith had to fight in the American courts for their religious rights other faiths had freely had for years because they would not fight in human wars or mix in government business just like first Christians? Why do not all Christian faith Sorry if I said man if the person is a woman! And yes toooo long but needed info! have that same faithful to divene law history? A serious question needing a true right answer! And who of them once they see their wrong ways sincerely repent from it in truth? Or that is stop doing the wrong things? See who opened the door for you to make your choice of religion even if it was not their religion you wanted to be part of at link here: If it is a woman not a man sorry! And sorry so long toooooo! but needing looked into seriously! And if edited wrong sorry also, I am not a get writer but a sincere one! If anyone who answered had time to think more about this question come back and edit in a more knowledgable answer if you like. I hope that is allowed here because we need to keep this in the news. I have been away from the computer for a time now and came back and cannot believe how my added details got all mixed up. Before I left I did not notice it being like that. Sorry! Hope you can still follow what is being said here.